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== Chapter 1 - Rodeo with Mark ==
Obsessed with being strict and insistent on being by the books, VJ frequently objected on people's admin applications with lengthy over-dramatic essays for reasons. This style of objections was rather controversial amongst staff members, but the straw that broke the camel's back was his vote on an admin application by Savnith. This prompted many staff members to complain to Mark, who then sent a private message to VJ about it on February 18, 2017. To try to curb this style of objections, Mark essentially banned him from providing reasoning in his votes on admin applications for the rest of the month. It resulted in a lengthy back-and-forth between the two with ultimatums being issued and the same being retreaded several times.
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Following this exchange, VJ conversed with [[Community:
== Chapter 2 - The Vote-off ==
On May 18, 2017, VJ created a vote-off against Marco without consulting with Mark or the executive team (a violation of the policy facilitating vote-offs). Resentment towards Marco had peaked at this point, as several staff members (current and former) began to hurl hateful abuse at him<ref>https://github.com/VideoGameSmash12/Minecraft-Log-Dumps/blob/master/TotalFreedom/2017/2017-05-18-3.log#LL3948C4-L3948C4</ref>. This caused Marco to break down in the admin chat.
<pre>[17:03:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [ADMIN] marcocorriero [STA]: feeling sad and on tears now, because i we tought we are family, all friendly and each other acc
[17:03:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [ADMIN] marcocorriero [STA]: accepted each others , and no matters how.
[17:03:54] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [ADMIN] marcocorriero [STA]: no, i dont want to fight again.
</pre>
Mark wasn't happy upon finding out what happened. In response, he deleted the vote-off thread, temporarily removed VJ from his staff position to get his attention, and sent private messages to multiple staff members who were critical of Marco asking why he shouldn't be a developer. He appreciated the feedback many gave him, but noted that Marco took initiative to help the server and explained why he finds that important.
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|+ Conversation ID #47584 - Marco
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! User !! Message
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| '''markbyron''' || I'd like to know why you think Marco shouldn't be an admin when he taken the initiative to get things done from a dev standpoint. Contrast to Uyscutix (former VJ) who blatantly violates admin policies, loves being a hard case and driving people away. Give me some specifics that Marco need to improve on. I need people that take initiative esp. in dev - even if he's not the one that's doing the coding.
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| '''Video''' || Here's some things he needs to improve on:<br><br>
1. I believe he needs to know that just because he is a community developer doesn't mean he has superiority over others - I find him quite bossy in certain situations.<br><br>
2. He needs to improve his development skills. Although he has brought some ground-breaking features (/v is one example), I believe he needs to have some time to gradually improve his skills in Java - this way, he will have a lower chance in making errors when he's programming which means less time needed for patches. It also means he could possibly improve our current plugin's code.<br><br>
3. He needs to chill out during certain situations. For example, when the well-known rulebreaker (frequent user) joins the server, Marco gets very paranoid and he has attempted to dedicate his time to wipe them off the surface of the earth. So he just needs to relax a bit (listen to some relaxing music or something).<br><br>
That's all I can think of. Please provide input.
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| '''markbyron''' || that doesn't like somebody who needs to voted off - if he's a bossy, a senior, exec or myself can readily handle that. Of course he needs to improve dev skills but at least he's taking some initiative. I just wish that people would take a little effort to stop these problems before they blow up and we have a major drama fest. Appreciate your input.
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In more internal channels on the forums, Mark created a thread detailing exactly why VJ was temporarily removed.
{{quote
|uyscutix absurdly initiated a vote-off outside of the policy - totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/24940/vote-off-admin-policy-aug - i consider uyscutix a constant disruptive force who doesn't practice what he harshly demands of others; I have repeatedly warned him. I temporarily removed him to get his attention. If you have a problem a with a particular admin, handle it properly instead of grinding your personal axe.<br>
I urge you to please follow the admin disciplinary process. [https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/2046/admin-disciplinary-process totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/2046/admin-disciplinary-process]<br>
The goal should be to solve problems at the lowest level and before they get out of hand. Unfortunately I think some rather enjoy the public drama.|markbyron|[https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/51785/removed Removed]}}
The removal itself created a lot of dissent. A large majority of people voted to have Marco removed, so when the vote-off was completely erased and the person behind it was removed, many viewed it as yet another example of Mark defending Marco as much as possible. A few hours after the thread was removed, staff member [[Community:xRubyMC|xRubyMC]] created a group PM consisting of multiple staff members critical of Marco to discuss it. While there were some who agreed that Mark was censoring them, many of the people in the PM did not agree with the idea of the group as they viewed it as largely unnecessary and potentially disastrous (with one even saying it was looking a lot like a "retarded vigilante group" that "ended up backfiring onto its creators" and warned that this would do nothing but cause more trouble). Ruby ultimately caved in, instructing people who want to leave to do so, expressing concern that there might be spies forwarding the group to Mark, and noting that he was already warned not to cause drama on the forums.
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|+ Conversation ID #47598 - About marco is not getting any removals
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| '''xRubyMC''' || Hello. I created this PM because of marco is not getting any removals from the voteoff just because mark is being a bullshit on protecting marco.<br>
We need your reply on how will this end.<br>
Me and scutix were having a conversation on why marco won't get any removals. You guys also don't trust marco because of his "coding" skills.<br>
Scutix even got suspended because of his "democracy" opinion. Once his forum account is unbanned, he will explain why his opinion got rejected by mark; because marco, he helped mark to do things. He can't even do codes but he even asked Commo to do it since he knows how to code. I'll need anyone to have a long-ass paragraph post if you have anything that have with marco-related.<br>
Have any means that you only got. We'll be having a discussion to this only with Anti-Marco admins who doesn't like marco.<br>
Hope you understand. :)
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| '''JJ_Jaguar2000''' || There was no need at all to create a group chat with like 20 admins. Because this will be disastrous. It will end up being like a Marco hate group. Which is not what we want.
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| '''xRubyMC''' || I know, we were having a plan to pm many admins that don't even trust marco. We all know you voted him to remove him.
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| '''xRubyMC''' || Even though, it's more of an issue regarding everyone's votes being blatantly ignored.
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| '''JJ_Jaguar2000''' || Ok. Let me explain.<br>
Last night I got carried away a bit. To me I don't really see that many issues with Marco TBH. He may be trying to code something good, or trying to be helpful but it's just not working. I have no idea why I even thought of a voteoff TBH.
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| '''Lemon''' || Apparently the vote off was not in "policy" which I think is bullshit. Who cares if it's not in policy? There are loads of vouches to remove him, and this isn't even his first vote off.
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| '''Unknown #1''' || Ah, I thought this would happen. Mark has been hesitant to remove Marco because he's been biased to him in the past. I think this is absolutely unfair, and mark needs to listen to other admin's opinions.<br>
And about it not being in policy, sure, it isn't in policy, but it's a cover-up to allow mark to continue having Marco on the force.<br>
I'm on my phone, so I'll go more-in depth when I get back from school.
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| '''xRubyMC''' || The reason why [Rylie] and Reflet left because of marco doing something that we don't even want. All he do was adding weird plugins into the server but it's shit. I like the old tfm better since it's more freedom-like.<br>
Even though, scutix can explain why his opinion for the vote-off got rejected and got suspended. Mark doesn't care for us and just protecting marco. He's so arrogant to have marco as his pet.
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| '''DarkLynx108''' || {{quote|Even though, scutix can explain why his opinion for the vote-off got rejected and got suspended.|xRubyMC}}
If his account wasn't disabled so he is unable to explain
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| '''Lemon''' || {{quote|{{quote|Even though, scutix can explain why his opinion for the vote-off got rejected and got suspended.|xRubyMC}}
If his account wasn't disabled so he is unable to explain|DarkLynx108}}
his account is disabled till his time 6pm today
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| '''Unknown #2''' || I saw the vote off, like everyone voted yes. why the fuck isnt he gone he thinks hes a pro coder or some shit and makes terrible additions to the server that mark keeps accepting for whatever reason
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| '''aggelosQQ''' || I don't wanna have any input but was uyscutix's forum ban and suspension really necessary?
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| '''Robin''' || {{quote|I don't wanna have any input but was uyscutix's forum ban and suspension really necessary?|aggelosQQ}}
obviously not, it's just plain bias at this point
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| '''Galahad''' || it was unnecessary. if anything, scutix wasn't being "a dictator" this time. he asked for the other admin's opinions, and they were given. I see why [Rylie] and Reflet left now - and they're right. mark is censoring the opinion of a majority.
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| '''MrPerson660''' || Ok, I don't like Marco as much as everyone else but this group chat is too far.<br>
This is looking a lot like that retarded vigilante group a few years ago that ended up backfiring onto the creators. This will do nothing except cause more trouble.
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| '''xRubyMC''' || if you want to leave this conversation, please do. dont want any spies to send and mark already warned me not to make any marco drama related.<br>
bye now
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Mark soon found out about this group, frustrated at this point, asked a select few from the group to be honest with him and give input for how the situation could be resolved. He stressed that while Marco isn't perfect, the person who tried to vote him off is much worse by comparison. After receiving some input from [[Community:SupItsDillon|SupItsDillon]], Mark made a proposal: give Ruby, VJ, and Marco a 1 week break from the server in an attempt to cool the situation down. Dillon seemed to agree with idea, and Mark put it into place a few minutes later.
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|+ Conversation ID #47608 - Ruby and Uy
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| '''markbyron''' || So I informed that Uy and Ruby are intent on causing a major disruption over Uy's misconduct with respect to Marco and sent you PMs. To quote a senior, "Scutix feels the need to take a dictator role over everyone. He was the same in his past life. If he didn't get his way, he would convince the person as much as possible." I agree and I'm not going to put up with it whether it's with Marco or anybody else. I've asked numerous people about Marco and they seem the same thing I see - immature actions at times, a pest at times, and sometimes crosses the line - a common thing to most any admin - definitely not worthy of suspensions and invalid vote-offs by somebody who actually is far worse.<br>
I would like your input on how we can resolve this matter but if in the end, you feel you can't stomach how I do business, there's other options. Just be honest with me. If you don't want to reply here, send me a PM separately.
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| '''SupItsDillon''' || He honestly just needs a day or two break and be told to read over the policies + promise to mature up and stop being annoying.
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| '''markbyron''' || How about this - a one week or so 'cooling off vacation' for all three (Uy, Ruby, and Marco) and no further sanctions unless warranted.
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| '''SupItsDillon''' || Sounds great
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| '''markbyron''' || alright, see [https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/51791/cooling-off totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/51791/cooling-off]
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In the official announcement about the breaks, Mark didn't give much detail about the situation in question but did stress that the break was not a sanction but was instead a "cool down".
{{quote|Three admins will take a short break from the server (Uy, Ruby, Marco) - let's call it cool down and not a sanction or blame game - more like a vacation to let things chill.|markbyron|[https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/51791/cooling-off Cooling Off]}}
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